Post Info TOPIC: Entry fee for Kukkarahalli ?
GVK

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The idea deserves to be nipped in the bud. The Mysore University can’t afford the lake’s upkeep, says vice-chancellor, Prof. J  Shashidhara Prasad (Deccan Herald, Nov.25, 2005). He suggests a nominal entry fee of one rupee. In return, he promises added facilities such as a built-in parking lot close to the lake. Visiting birds aren’t going to like it. Nor would the proposal amuse bird-watching enthusiasts. Far from thickening vegetation in the lake environs we seem to be planning for clearing the green-cover to facilitate our lake walkers to drive down there. What an elitist thought.


As for the entry fee idea Prof.Prasad can cite a precedent – Karanji lake, where the levy is Rs.10 (says Rotary Mysore Guide-book). A bad precedent, I would say. I am among the old-fashioned lot that believes that public places, notably, parks and gardens, no longer remain truly public, if entry to them is priced. Prof. Prasad’s proposal amounts to levying a fee to enter the university premises. Wonder if there is any university anywhere else that charges a fee to enter its campus. Budget constraints are understandable. Here is another idea that Prof. Prasad could consider. Why not hand over control of the Kukkarahalli lake to MUDA?


 



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Gouri Satya

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Kukkarahalli lake is one of our precious heritage lakes. Thanks to the great vision of our erstwhile rulers of Mysore in today’s much talked about ‘water conservation’ nearly two centuries ago, the lake fed drinking water to this small town of Wodeyars, a fact forgotten now. The lake has its own history worth recalling. So also the lakes around Mysore.Unfortunately, these lakes are decaying and dying. Luckily two lakes have seen some care and rejuvenation – the Karanji and the Kukkarahalli. Kukkarahalli can become a major attraction for tourists and the people of Mysore for bird watching, boating and the like. A
little bit of imagination and planning can do wonders to it.
The lake right now needs upkeeping and development, but both the Mysore University and the City Corporation have other pressing matters to attend. The people of Mysore can be generous to chip in a little to maintain this once glorious lake, the vast water sheet of which spread up to Manasa Gangotri Gandhi Bhavan, Hunsur Road and Crawford Hall once. As some improvements have already been made and the lake needs further development and treatment of sewage water flowing into it, it needs funds. A small fee for the visitors and a small monthly fee for the regulars, who replenish their body and mind morning or evening, can go a long way in protecting their own historic lake. They can add a little of their own to the great service the Wodeyars had done to Mysore when they ruled this state.


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Suresh Yerapathi

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Everyone wants Kukkarahalli Lake to be developed and everyone wants Kukkarahalli Lake to be maintained well and clean and this everyone includes our winged guests to the Lake too....


The Mysore University too wants Kukkarahalli to be a vantage point and wishes to make the lake more live with activity. But funds, to maintain such a huge lake is something that the University can't afford.. the University, instead of handing over the lake to MUDA, they can instigate the NCC/NSS volunteers to involve in maintaining the cleanliness of the lake as their one of the social activities.. as option one


Option two being Collecting money from the public is not a bad idea at all.. infact one can go upto an extent of collecting Rs. 5/- (For Two Wheeler Entry) and Rs. 10/- (for Four Wheeler entry) for the initial one hour and additional Re. 1/- or Rs. 2/- for every additional hour or two. This amount collected should be inclusive of parking fees. By doing so the whole place can be maintained.


The University could include the SHGs or NGOs to collect the entrance fee and maintain the lake. By opting for this method, employment opportunity is generated.


I still feel its the responsibility of everyone who is using the facilities at the Lake.. to pay and use..


At locations like public toilets, public parking places, Parks, Lakes, libraries, museums .... we shouldn't and wouldn't mind paying fees. If we pay fees at the above locations, we are bound to get better facilities and better environment...


When the University intended to collect entrance fees to enter the Lake, everyone opposed to that and abolished that idea. But now who is suffering for that.. they are the very ones who are indirectly affecting the balance of nature.


If one observes in the morning and in the evening, the people who come for evening walks, park their vehicles carelessly and hapazardly around the lake entrance causing problems to everybody.. now if they are made to pay money and there is an attender collecting the money, he is bound to guide the people visiting the lake to park their vehicles in an order and manner. The stall vending fresh fish can be extended little further and can provide the stall owner some space for him to sell his kababs in the evening. There is lot of space around the lake which can be cleaned and be used for parking the vehicles or to set up some outlets. These outlets has to be manned and operated by the SHGs or the NGO. We can arrive at a solutions for any problem, but we need to have people to reason out and brain storm and arrive at a solution, a few rupees per month per person can go a long way in development of a lake.


Another option is the hand over the lake to the Lake Development Authority based in Bangalore to take care of the lake. which might not work out... because the authority might call for a tender to maintain and develop the park.. for which again  our environmentalists and nature lovers might object because the person who gets the tender will surely put up his stalls along with his boating facility and other attractions.


My solution is to collect an entrance fees from the public using the lake as i suggested.. so then the duration too can be controlled and in turn this move might increase people opting for carpool system to reach the lake.


 



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H.R.Bapu Satyanrayana

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Levying entry fee was under consideration and, presumably, while restoration was being undertaken two gates  at the eastern and southern side were erected keeping  this in view . After discussion the idea was dropped. In fact, even charging parking fee for the vehicles was taken up by the University and had to be dropped due to severe criticism, coupled with no notice or preparation. Charging a fee is not workable for many reasons.


 To quote examples from New Delhi, Nehru Park and  Hauz Khas Park are huge areas with many facilities like fountains, well manicured lawns, very well laid out walkways, play facilities for children, rose garden and   deer park (In Hauz Khas), where no entry fees is charged. It is maintained by the municipal authorities with their own resources. In comparison  Kukkarhalli lake is  a tiny area and, already, after spending Rs. 91 lakhs it is seen how the whole area is going to seed by callous neglect within a matter of 18 months after its restoration. With corruption abounding somebody was telling me that if fee is charged, duplicate tickets will make roaring business.


 Even comparison with Karanji Kere Nature park where fee is charged is not logical as it has lot of facilities. First of all, the people will oppose and there is no guarantee that the authorities will  maintain it the way they do in Lal Baug. Even in Lal Baugh fee is only charged after 9am and earlier it is free. There is another fallacy involved. It is stated that Kukkarahalli comes under the control of the University. My view is that they are merely the custodians and the tank is an invaluable and heritage asset of Mysore. Therefore, it has to be the joint responsibility of three agencies including MUDA and MCC. They have to sit together to come up with a solution of defining mutual responsibility and financial arrangement because it is not the question of the tank only but  of the link channel which brings water and cutting off sewage.


 


Related item: Kukkarahalli mo(u)rning walkers



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Bhamy V Shenoy

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I am in agreement with Dr. Sashidara Prasad's idea of charging a fee for the upkeep of Kukkerhalli Lake. We in Mysore thanks to the ill founded ideas of Mysore Rajas, are accustomed to getting every thing "free". We have not realized there is nothing like free lunch. We will pay for it in one way or the other. We want to get water supply free because water is essential for every one. We want to get electricity, and LPG, at subsidised price. We want to eneter public parks free. We do not like to pay our share of property taxes for any number of reasons. Then who will pay for all these goods and services?

LPG shortage is there because providers of that commodity lose money. We have eternal problem with electricity because more than 50% of it is unaccounted for. Water supply is never dependable because VVWS cannot recover its costs. We know all these things, but do not like to implement the lessons learnt from our experience.

Even the shop owners of Devaraja Market believe that they need help. They pay puny rents if they pay at all. But they want some philothropists to pay for the rehabilitation of the market so that they can continue to make profit. One may wonder what all these have got to do with paying a fee for the use of Kukkerhalli lake. Of more than 10 lakhs of population of Mysore, what percentage of people use that lake. Why should every one who does not use that lake pay for the upkeep?

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Vijendra Rao

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I have little doubt that I have left my deep footprints on the tankbund. They are unlike the footprints of R.K. Narayan or K.V. Puttappa, the two bright stars in the milkyways of English and Kannada literature. I am only a jogger who treads the same path. The path that has nourished literature and lives alike. No longer so. There has emerged a peculiar food cycle. The birds that feed on the fish in this lake have followed the fishes' way. The fish are dead or dying because of water contamination. The birds are dead or dying because of food contamination. If birds are gone, can their watchers be far behind - there is a fish stall just outside the lake area? 


Well, this is just a repeat of what happened ten years ago. I was assisting my photographer in making a heap of dead fish so he could take their pictures. I was  multiple-tasking - blocking my nostrils because of the stench, looking for dead fish on the banks, poking them with a big stick to add to the heap, while at the same time being watchful against any crocodiles that cohabit other aquatic creatures in this lake. (would anybody know how they survive contamination?) 


All this had changed over recent years. Aquatic life had got a fresh lease because of restoration of the lake. Sewage had been diverted, after years of debate on division of responsibility of diversion. Insured against sewer, citizens thronged the spot again. This water body promised to spawn a new civilisation. It was adding to the lifespan of a whole lot of Mysoreans, who ran, jogged, walked, worked out, or turned avid yoga buffs, in accordance with their taste, need, ability, and medical advice. It was as if life and death, oxygen and carbon dioxide competed to occupy the same space. Morning and evening, Kukkarahally seemed the only place in Mysore where there was activity of the kind witnessed in, say, Churchgate, Mumbai. 


Just about the time that the lake held out promise of a healthy life for those who breathed the air blowing across it, that stench has started emanating from it. Well, there are at least two ways by which the lake can be restored. One, levy a token fee on users who will have all those extra years of good health (thus gained) in which to earn that amount! Two, lease out the huge tracts of waste land, where stand the weeds now, to interested horticulturists. The second measure will beautify the area, while at the same time, earn substantial revenues to the university, the proud owner of Kukkarahally Lake. If nothing else, the money can support construction of toilets for use by those who cannot hold it back as they move around the lake.


     


 



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Bhagavan

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Charging a nominal fee of Rs.1 /-each ( excluding children ) for visitors is good . However, a system of  issuing free annual passes to those who regularly go for walk should be an encouragement to promote healthy activity.    

 
 

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Solanki D S D

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As said i am of the opinion the path that was made for the jogger's and walkers, with the intrusion of the human activity into the other side of the area as endagaredagnered the life of the birds coming area.


On my way back visit to Bombay in 2001 to Hira Nandani area where most of the films are shot i visited the park in the near by vicinity where in they charge a Rs5/- for the entry.


I think we too should know the value of the park and lakes if not the time will say, the generation will have no lung space to breathe


Save Park and Lakes, at the same time charge some money which can push the upkeep of the area and money collected should be rightly used.


 



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M.B.Nagakumar

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I feel we need to charge a fee, say Rs200/Pm, so that the funds can be used for development of the lake.I am sure everybody would favour such fund that will help us maintain the lake.
 
 

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S Shamsundar

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It is a good idea. The entry fee should be nominal, and the amount collected should be used for the betterment of the lake.

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B.R.Ramaprasad

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Am I missing something here? The Mysore University should take care of education and not lakes. Hand it over to MUDA (what is MUDA?) or someone else who knows what to do. 


B.R.Ramaprasad, Millington, NJ



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GVK

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Mysore Urban Development Authority, Mr Ramaprasad. Your are right, MUDA ought to know what to do with the lake.

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Suresh Yerapathi

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As the Lake area is within the campus of Manasa Gangothri, the whole area is under the jurisidiction of the Mysore University, that's why the University has to take a call on that.. and not the MUDA.


Infact the road opposite to the open air theatre too is being maintained by the University.



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