National Assessment and Accreditation Council (NAAC) has awarded a five star grade to Bangalore and Mysore University, four star to Gulbarga and Mangalore, three star to Kevempu, B++ to Kannada University and B+ to Manipal Academy of Higher education. Any one who is little familiar with the operations of Universities in Karnataka will be shocked with such high eye popping evaluation and especially the five star for Mysore and Bangalore Universities. At best our universities are just degree mills. There was a time when private companies did not even recognize degrees conferred by Bangalore University. Recently a NAAC committee visited Mysore University. Based on the press reports, it is certain that NAAC will renew its five star (star system is now replaced by letter grading) status. Based on these observations if one considers NAAC to be a farce, we may not be off the mark.
NAAC is an excellent idea sponsored by the University Grants Commission to improve the quality and excellence of higher education in India. Much thought has gone into the development of basic concepts of NAAC. The vision of NAAC is "to make quality the defining element of higher education in India through a combination of self and external quality evaluation, promotion and sustenance initiatives". When a student deserving a failing grade is given high marks and a certificate of excellence, what motivation he will have to improve his performance? This is also true of an institute. This logic sounds simple and rational. Recently a NAAC committee consisting of vice chancellor, professors and academicians was visiting Mysore University. When I posed this question to members of the NAAC committee there was no response. They know that if Mysore University is given one star, their Universities may not get any stars at all.
NAAC's objectives are: 1. Contributing to national development, 2. Fostering Global Competencies among students, 3. Inculcating a value system in students, 4. Promoting the use of technology and 5. Quest for excellence. But NAAC's evaluation matrix based on seven criteria seems to be failing to assess how these objectives are met by the University. These seven criteria are curricular practices, teaching and learning evaluation, research, consultancy and extension, infrastructure and learning resources, student support and progression, organization and management and healthy practices. There is an obvious disconnect between what NAAC wants to achieve and how the committees perform their evaluation.
If we are concerned in fostering global competencies, how can we evaluate Mysore University on a relative scale of the poor standards of Indian Universities? But for Jawaharlal Nehru University, IITs, IIMs, ISc, and University of Calcutta, none of the Indian Universities appear in the top five hundred universities ranked by Shanghai Jiao Tong University and a similar World University ranking by The Times. China is looking for better managed universities to compare its educational institutes and explore strategies to raise to their standards. At Mysore University we seem to be happy about how great it was once and how we had intellectuals like S. Radhakrisnan, Shrimali, Kuvempu etc.
When every thing at Mysore University (it is no different at other Karnataka Universities) like selection of the vice chancellor, promotion of professors, selection of staff, grading students, is decided on caste system in total contravention to Indian Constitution, what kind of value system can be inculcated? NAAC committee chairman privately accepted my observation, but pleaded inability to take into consideration while evaluating the university. Can casteism foster excellence, one of the objectives of NAAC?
Excepting those professors who fully support caste based decision making, others are afraid to express their true opinion on the current state of the University. A university is one place where there should be total academic freedom to express any view without any fear. No professor or student at Mysore University will feel that they have such freedom today. How can such a university foster creative thinking?
But for some select departments, there is hardly any research taking place in the University. Numbers of articles published in leading academic journals by University professors are very few. Neither natural sciences nor social sciences department carry out basic or applied research on the problems faced by the society. For example Management schools attached to the University have never done any case studies on why Mysore City Corporation, or Mysore Urban Development Authority is not managed properly or how Dussera can be managed much better or why Jawa company failed. There are some shining exceptions like new School of Design which is completely autonomous and takes up subjects like city's comprehensive development plans.
Fortunately the current vice chancellor has been an outspoken critique of the ills of the university. Under his management, the university has started to see some change for the better for the first time in recent years. But the present Byzantine decision making system heavily influenced by political interference is not giving him the full freedom to bring about the needed reform.
NAAC is currently taking a critical look at the peer review system and also grading methodology. This is a good sign of any healthy institute. Thus there is still some hope, that NAAC may take corrective steps. First of all NAAC should drop the current seven criteria model of assessing the university. They should start bench marking against the five leading universities out of the top twenty in the world like Harvard in the US, Cambridge in the UK, Ecole Polytechnic in France, Beijing University in China and National University of Singapore and evaluate them on how they fulfill the five objectives of NAAC. Relative ranking based on sub standard Indian Universities should be discarded. NAAC committee should also ask the universities while preparing their Self Study Report to evaluate their performance on the five objectives of NAAC.
Serious thought should be given to reconstitute the NAAC committees. It is not at all necessary that it should consist of only academicians. Distinguished alumni, successful businessmen with high academic qualifications and high ethical standards, accomplished retired IAS officers, leading NGOs who have also excelled in their chosen fields and have high academic backgrounds (not those who are only activists) should be asked to serve on these committees. Such committees would be far more independent and objective.
No assessment system is likely to be perfect. But the present system by NAAC which gives such a totally misleading evaluation needs to be reformed. Otherwise the main objective for which NAAC was conceived will never be fulfilled. Mysore University can certainly be restored to its glory provided political interference can be kept to the minimum as it was with IITs, IIMs and ISc before the recent dawning of new era of quota raj. Mysore University can still meet its obligation towards all the sections of the society while improving excellence and implementing a well thought out affirmative action program for the weaker section of the society. Today Mysore University does not seem to serve any one excepting perhaps a tiny political class.
THAT the University of Mysore bags a five star leaves me with no desire whatsoever to know anything about the lesser universities. I thought this university was the pits. You want to know why this university has no image? It is because the Kukkarahalli Lake, the true reflector of its image, is muddied. It is muddied because it is controlled by the university.
It is like when ITDC owned Ashok hotels all over India and regardless of what a big dump they were, they enjoyed five star status. There are inns and motels abraod that would have rated better if our rating agencies are to be believed.
I completely agree with Dr. Shenoy's observations, Mysore University should be Eyesore University where one's political connections, caste and creed takes precedence over eberything else. Whats there to talk about academics? Five star losers, indeed.
Here I am again. I am not stalking you I promise. I refer to the following assertion from you:
"Mysore University can certainly be restored to its glory provided political interference can be kept to the minimum as it was with IITs, IIMs and ISc before the recent dawning of new era of quota raj".
I can name a few directors of IIT who were chosen because of the support they received from political masters. For example,have we forgotten for example, the case of Satish Dhavan vs R.S Krishnan when the former was chosen as the director and the objections of R.S Krishnan were simply brushed aside. How was Pandalai appointed as director at Madras IIT poly and what did he do during his tenure? Did he buckle under political pressure? The answers to these questions will be interesting. How do you think the professors and even assistant professors were /are being appionted in these institutions. Only recently American type' search committees' are instituted There is no gurantee that search committes are any better. I know because I served on more than one in India and USA. Even in USA I was disturbed how pressure was put to go for a certain candidate. Though a brahmin, I can cannot condone appointments made in these institutions ( IITs particularly) based on cbrahmin caste sub-divisions, Iyengars, Iyers ( Madras ( Tamilnadu now) Iyers vs Mysore Iyers vs Palghat Iyers), Hoysala Karnataka vs Madhwas vs Sankethis etc.. If a student cannot get into an MTech/ME because of his grades, he was allowed in to MSc ( research) through backdoors . I can name a case where a student an year senior to me got in to IISC through this route -this time the Iyengar mafia operated. I know a few other cases. two of them ended up as directors of central laboratories and retired only a few years ago. Why do we resent if a Gowda or Lingayat gets fast tracked into an acdemic position/ or into an MSc. BC and SC operate well at state levels. If you are really serious, please start datamining information from 1964 to date on IIT Madras, IISC, IIT Kanput and IIT Delhi on appointments of directors downwards to professors and assosciate professor levels. Then analyse how each of them functioned in respect of various admissions, particularly at the masters and doctorate levels. Then we will have facts to compare them with Mysore university. I guarantee now that you will hit a dead wall, everytime. Peoples' lips will be sealed. But if you persist you will be amazed with wthat transpired in IITs until recently. I am sitting thousands of miles away from you, it will take me some time to get recent info, but there will be no surprises for me.
I think that's what Dr. Shenoy means, Mr. Bharadwaj. Meaning that University of Mysore should be rid of all caste based appointments and political appointments, if it is to truly be a five star university. I don't think Dr. Shenoy mentions anywhere that he is in favor of a "brahmin" lobby or "Iyengar mafia" as you put it. I think you missed the point in the earlier topic about reservations also. We are not for reservations of any kind, any mafioso or any lobby or pressure group.
Taking off from your previous topic comment, seems you are in the US. To say that it is the least corrupt country is rather funny, having lived there for 13 years and seeing drug peddling going on the streets of Miami while cops went by! Oh god, the land of Dick Cheney is corruption free? Holy cow! If you had said Singapore, I'd have agreed.
Back to the topic. I agree with Dr. Shenoy (never met him once!) that we need quality and quality alone can assure a five star rating to Mysore University or for that matter, India itself. That cannot be achieved by reservations. See where affrimative action has taken the blacks in your neck of the woods, Mr. Bharadwaj.
I do not think you are reading my comments carefully. i did declare in another blog comment that I am not the U.S. Hence can you stop conjecturing please. I do not think you know what happens in Indian higher education establishments past and present. I repeat again, Mysore university is a cesspit for nefarious practices which come out, but in IITs these practices are very subtly carried out. I
I don't know and don't claim to know what happens at any levels of Indian education Mr. Bharadwaj. Don't think, however, that I am ignorant of whats happening in Mysore University, I was there for a while myself. Thats not the point, my knowledge of it or otherwise. If the topic was only meant for "learned" people then it is a two man debate and I thought mymysore forum was for all to debate whether they have knowledge, experience or have been through IIT's (or not!).
I made my observation about your location since your last comment mentioned India and the US. It's OK if you are somewhere else. Anyways, back to the topic, if you agree with Dr. Shenoy that Mysore University is a cesspool that needs cleaning, there's no debate I suppose. We are in agreement of that. This topic is not about IIT's. It is about Mysore University. No comparison that IIT's still churn out the best minds (despite "subtle" practises as you call it) and no wonder MNC's and froeign companies are eager to lap them up. Who hires a My Univ graduate?
Please read carefully, the IITs were brought into this and I quote from Shenoy sir:
"Mysore University can certainly be restored to its glory provided political interference can be kept to the minimum as it was with IITs, IIMs and ISc before the recent dawning of new era of quota raj".
I explained how there was and has been political interference in IITs. If this comes out as it has happened in the case of Mysore university, I am sure the 'lapping up of IIT graduates' would slow down. About who would employ Mysore university graduates like yourself you mean? You are doing well I suppose. If you live in Mysore or intend to settle in Mysore, you will bump into them as adminstrators who will have the power to delay your papers!
Sorry to deflate the balloon there Mr. Bharadwaj. I studied abroad (read US-mostly on my own money) and I am in this postion because of that, my mysore univ degree is worthless and a waste of time. Always was. Yes, I am doing very well, nothing to do with Mysore Univ again. Oh, by the way, nobody hired me dear Sir, nobody would have, with just a My Univ degree. I run my own aviation consultancy business and buy and sell Aircraft, I blog too! My Univ did not teach me any of this. My first job and all subsequent ones were overseas and ALL were a result of my eductaion and licensing abroad. Haven't shown my My Univ degree anywhere, never needed to.
I do live in Mysore (when I am not traveling 8 months a year) and have strong local connections there. There's no one who dares to delay my papers. Hasn't happened yet and I don't suppose this will happen now, there are no administrators in Mysore who are Mysoreans. I don't care either way and was never afraid of being outspoken, even when I am there. I am known for my caustic remarks in public. This is a democracy. I don't run away somewhere else just because there is opposition, corruption or other stumbling blocks! I went abroad for training, education and experince, not to run away from life.
Nice to know that you have strong links and no one dares to delay your papers. Nice also know that you are in a democracy and that you are not bumping into administrators who are Mysoreans. Ignoring the personal remarks which does not contribute any points for discussion , I am suggesting since you live in Mysore at least for a few months a year and were thevictim of low reputation of the University, whu don't you form a pressure group with agendas and I will happily join as an alumnus of Mysore University. Since you do want to 'run away from life', this is a positive approach
By the way, my degree from Mysore university did not prevent me from studying abroad with assistantship from the university concerned. and getting a job back in India. To me it is not where you study but what your potentials are and what contributions you can make.
Nice play on my words there. My strong links are meant to conevy my personal strength in being able to take on the system and not be afraid. Your play on my words makes it fun to read that I see misiterpretation all over. No personal remarks meant or intended as far as you are concerned. I was not a victim of a low reputation university either. That's misinterpretation again. As I said earlier, my univ degree had no value then and has no value now. It did not help, nor hinder my life, in my opinion, it was a waste of time and I chose it to be isn't it? I said it in the context of your question about whether I knew about Mysore Univ or not. Good that your degree stood you well. I am sure lots of others also did so. Rightly said, its not where you study but what you are made of.
Whether Mysore University deserves to be five star rated? Absolutely not. It does not deserve any rating at all. Can it come up to the standards of a five star? Everything has potential. There are many things that deserves more attention than me forming a pressure group to ressurect Mys Univ. Thats not what I said. I don't have the least bit of interest in reforming Mys univ. I never professed that my comments on any number of topics will make me form dozens of organizations to fight the system nor did I volunteer to change the univ system. Heck no, I've got better and more positive things to do.
I am going to wind up for the moment my discussion by suggesting a few points which others might like to expand.
1) Persons of my vintage remember that K M Panicker in his short tenure as vice chancellor partially resurrected the pride of Mysore University. After him except KM Srimali, other vice chacellors were intellectual pygmies and mostly political appointees. Caste has recently played a large part in this. Some one sent me a note saying that it is turn for a Gowda to be appointed asvice chacellor for Bangalore university. Mysore university needs a vice chancellor with an international reputation of the stature of Panicker and most importantly he/she be allowed to function without political intervention.
2) When Regional Engg College at Suratkal was established thanks to Srinivasa Mallya's intervention, the state government then averred that it will be the last Engg Colege for a period ( Though a central institution then a regional college had had to have strong links with the state concerned). Soon Engg colleges mushroomed and now almost every district has an engineering college and medical colleges too. Also the Manasagangothri campus expansion in its flip side quickly triggered the downward slide of Mysore University's reputation as faculties multiplied creating multitude of vacancies. This with politically appointed vice chancellors produced perfect environment for nepotism and correuption to flourish.
The expansion ofEngg and Medical colleges should be stopped forthwith and academics should be given short renewable tenures.
3) A n expert panel consisting of complete outsiders should be appointed to suggest the admission process. Living and working in India, no one could avoid quota system - there is constitutional gurantee for parts of it. But a way has to be found to reduce the percentage.
4)The minister of education of the day strongly interferes in adminstration frequently. I am not sure whether Mysore university is fully autonomous-I guess not. In that case, make it autonomous. this will only work if there is health check on the powers of a vice chancellor.
5) The structures of the senate and syndicate need careful scrutiny.
The above are my thoughts now. Do I see anything happening? I do not. The problem has always been week vice chancellors. Currently a small committee of experts is asked to recemmend name/s ( correct me here) and the minister of education or CM approves the name. Essentially from the day one a vice chancellor is a political appointee. Panicker broke this by putting his own conditions. This is not possible now. The future looks pessimistic.
Mysore University does not deserve a single star, let alone five stars! It is a cesspool of casteism, favouritism, and casteist politics with very low standards. After Dr. K.M. Panicker and Dr. K.L.Shrimali, it has not seen an academician/scholar of the right type to take it to further heights. Despite being a political appointee even Dr. Shrimali's successor Prof. D.V.Urs performed well continuing on the lines of his two predecessors. In fact, it is he who launched the correspondence course for the first time in the country, in a university. He conferred honorary doctorates on some of the famous personalities of Mysore like Mysore V. Doreswamy Iyengar and Dr. Rajkumar.
I remember at one of the functions held in the Humanities Block Auditorium to celebrate the 50th birthday of a V-C, the V-C declaring that he would make the Mysore University a "Vokkaliga" university, when the Karnatak University could be a "Lingayat University." From then on, this casteist attitude has continued to dominate, in place of academic interests. Who can forget the ransacking of the room of Dr. U.R.Anantha Murthy for not passing a section of the students? Another subsequent V-C had announced disposing off a portion of the vast Manasa Gangtroi land as he thought that the University did not require "such a huge area"!
Today, it is ruled in-absentia by a former V-C, if the words of an employee is to be believed. At a campus where history is studied at the post-graduate level, the students are told that the vast lands of Manasa Gangotri was bought from the Maharaja by Dr. K.V. Puttappa, our respected poet laureate. I do not know whether it is intentional or ignorance. The lands were purchased from the Maharaja by Prof. N.A. Nikam, Professor of Philosophy, who was close to Jaya Chamaraja Wodeyar. Kuvempu bought the Jayalakshmi Vilas Mansion building from Sardar Basavaraj Urs.
More can be written about our university. I think this is enough to show to what low standards it has fallen over the years, after Dr. Panicker and Dr. Shrimali.
Did I tell you Sathya - the academic who was sitting next to me for lunch at the first anniversary of CDN in May, said this about the post-graduate centre at Manasagangotri: 'We call it PG Koppal?'
Thanks Viji. Yeah! better we call it 'PG Koppal', instead of 'KG Koppal'. The 'KG Koppal' was far better informed about Mysore, than the PG Koppal. Heard of Koppal Basavaiah? He could narrate the entire history of Mysore and the art of wrestling. Our academics know either, except politics and caste!
I am giving below two responses that have been sent to letter to editor's colums to continue the debate on Mysore University's five star status. I am hoping that this debate will result in tangible results of some action being taken up rather than finding fault with the critics.
It is very unfortunate that critics of unisversity are referred as evil and lowly as reported in some papers. Hope it is a wrong quote.
Bardwaja has suggested some good recommendations. we also should think of how to get these recommendations implemented.
August 10, 2006 Dear Sir,
I am happy to read the article of Dr Bhamy V Shenoy entitled “Assessing NAAC: How credible is its Star Grade given to Universities?” published by you in SOM of August 8, 2006. Constructive criticism with loyalty to the cause of education is always welcome if its objective to bring about the much needed improvement. Giving Stars to Universities does not lead to improvement in the existing decadence. In fact we often make a laughing stock of ourselves by claiming more than we deserve. On reading Shenoy’s article the present Vice-Chancellor must have agreed with most of what has been said. Plagiarism, inadequacy of management, lack of facilities for doing high quality work have held back our progress except perhaps in places like IITs, IIMs and Indian Institute of Science. The problem has been well brought out by Dr A. M. Shah’s article entitled “Higher Education and Research : Roots of Mediocrity” published in Economic and Political Weekly of May 28-June 4, 2005. I have discussed it with the Vice-Chancellors and he agreed on the urgency for laying down criteria and following tem strictly for performance assessment. He agreed the immediate need for calling a conference of the Universities of the southern region of our country for identifying the needs of the universities to raise their standards that have fallen. In my view there are some areas of excellence in a few Universities that need greater recognition but that is certainly not the case with every department. The management system particularly needs a total overhaul with a built in system for continuous evaluation of performance. This requires careful examination by experts. This subject was discussed at length in the conference of the Association of Indian Universities who made specific recommendations for action but little follow up action has since been taken for fear of annoying the owners of our feudal system. Let us initiate a meaningful dialogue as suggested by Dr Shenoy to rebuild a democratic, cooperative or corporate system of management with transparencies. The manner in which the meeting of NAAC was organized and managed in Mysore left much to be desired. Developing a democratic procedure with academic freedom seems to be dragging its feet ever since our Independence over the last 60 years. It needs immediate change.
Thanking you,
Yours sincerely,
H A B Parpia
09 August 2006
LETTER TO THE EDITOR
Sir,
Dr.Bhamy V. Shenoy’s article on NAAC and the Mysore University (SOM, 08.8.2006) is frank but well-motivated and constructive. The fact is that if the selection process for the top slot is not based upon merit, then the entire organization stands to lose. Let us face it, politics enters in filling top slots anywhere including in the much-vaunted USA, but merit has to be the first consideration. However, merit (some integral of academic qualifications, research papers published, teaching ability assessed by peers and students, administrative ability, peer relations and social awareness) of two candidates being the same, there is no reason why political considerations should not dictate the final choice. But sadly, as we all know, the “system” of the Government of Karnataka does not work like that, whether it is for appointing a VC or a Junior Engineer, and caste or money is the prime consideration. Establishments and organizations cannot be superior to the people who govern them, and the Government of Karnataka does not shine for its quality of governance.
The standards of Mysore University should be judged by the quality and volume of research papers published in international journals, and the quality of debate among students and teachers. The awarding of stars to Universities by NAAC may be “all sound and fury signifying nothing”.
Under the present dispensation, getting a good VC is a matter of chance. It is the good fortune of Mysore University that Prof. J. Shashidhar Prasad is the VC, as he is initiating changes for the better.
Going by the responses, may I as (most probably) the most recent graduate of the cesspit called Mysore Univ add my 2 bits??
What other commentators have said are what's blatant and whats more or less openly known. in some departments the political machinations and chicanery are nothing short of sophisticated. in that department wehre i was unfortunate enough to study, there was a change of HoD halfway through my 1st year... immedeiately there was a new visible nexus. the first year i was there, a final year student who had always topped the class with a big margin inexplicably failed one paper in the 2nd year.. and the gold medal was awarded to another. in the 2nd year too, the topper was not one who worked consistently hard all through the year and had consistent scores, but the current HoD's favourite... and surprise surprise, won the gold medal again... both years the medallist was of the same community as the then HoD.. funny part was that both these academic achievers are today in dead-end jobs... and those who who's academic careers were brought to a rude halt are doing really well for themselves, in India and abroad.. so I can say there is some justice somewhere...
our dissertations, however well accepted by the corporations where we did our internships were rejected. one was even told that there wasnt enough bulk to the report. one very intelligent student who's thesis was similarly rejected did something quite smart. increased the column widths, gave double-line spacing, added blank sheets between chapters.. and doing thus added 40 pages to his original report (content remained the same, word-for word),... and this thesis was accepted as is...
there were a lot of students who were at the receiving end of petty vindictiveness .. all of them being those who had secured general merit seats.. .
Ideal solution for Mysore univ would be to burn it to the ground, grow grass and raise cattle... thats what the end product that particular education system seem to turn out to be anyway..
it was indeed a sad reading. Over the years I have heard from other students, professors and even VCs about the deplorable state in Mysore and other universities. How will they change? It is when students (or now alumnus) like you stand up for your rights and fight for principles. Yes it does involve some or sometimes great sacrifice. If one thinks that reform can be brought about any sacrfice, and just by writing notes like we do, we are sadly mistaken.
Even in this case you could have given more details in terms of giving specifics. Obviosuly you did not for some reasons.
I admire the way you ended by stating that it is better to burn down Mysore University. In fact it is already burnt out. Just the edifice/skeleton is there. The real university was burnt a long time ago.
Continuing further, one of the HoD who was the guide for a doctoral thesis, openly said that she is simply not aware of the subject of the thesis and told the student to just fill 300 odd pages and publish 3 or 4 papers to get PhD.
I feel so sad that in this age of RoI and capacity utilisation, we see the University pitch dark and no activity just after evening 6. I feel instead of keeping it closed and making room for undesirable activities, let them rent it out to other colleges and institutes for a fee. I am sure given the facilities, there will be more students after 6 to genuinely learn than castist based students and lecturers during day time.
What is described is not unique to Mysore university alone. I could name other universities: Mangalore, Bangalore, Anna, Ujjain, Annamalai, JN Delhi.... where I have friends and they say the same . Simply calling Mysore university names such as PG/KG Koppal does not solve the problem which is deep rooted, specifically caste-based .... which reflects what India is today. People are trying to name a few universities/institutes as beacons of meritocracy and good practices, but if one talks to those who worked there, one hears similar kind of stories- PhD and Masters awarded to work undeserving, favouritism, caste-based promotions etc.. In some institutions these are more visible than others. That is the difference.
After all, these institutions reflect the society and politics of post-independent India. Politicians in power set the agenda, control the agenda and drive the agenda items forward. The current VC of Mysore University can say things, but I doubt he could do anything. I could say much about him, but I restrain myself.
Should one burn them down? There are so many of them that the bonfire would create an almighty international incident!
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RE: LALITA MAHAL PALACE (The Ashok Group)We need your support ...we are redefining ourself
Dear,Capt. Anp Murthy Sir, you must be replying on the Mysore University Status but unfortunately your comment for The Ashok Group Of Hotels was little harsh .Regions for your views may be due to a any bad experience you had with us. Sir I as a part of the new insurgent team would be glad to suggest you to have a lunch in LALITA MAHAL PALCE ,Mysore which still remains with the group and then post a comment........... waiting for your early examined report....... Thanks & Regards
Dear,Capt. Anp Murthy Sir, you must be replying on the Mysore University Status but unfortunately your comment for The Ashok Group Of Hotels was little harsh .Regions for your views may be due to a any bad experience you had with us. Sir I as a part of the new insurgent team would be glad to suggest you to have a lunch in LALITA MAHAL PALCE ,Mysore which still remains with the group and then post a comment........... waiting for your early examined report....... Thanks & Regards
I'm a new international student that just started at Mysore University doing a MA under scholarship. I must say I find the general running of the university back dated. It's appalling that the caste system is still present. To me thats modern day apartheid. I wonder what Gandhi would say. Ive had the opportunity to study up north of India and the differences are vast. The university has not embraced technology at all, only 5% of Indian students (birds eye view) at Mysore University can use the computer effectively. Seriously its 2013 and students are forced to write 10 page assignments. How do they expect their students to cope with the outside environment where everything is computerised? The world does not end in Bangalore taking the UGC exam to become a lecturer. Oh and yeah one of my lecturers is in politics. Go figure.
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